Monday, May 14, 2007

Sacred Feminine

I have been thinking about a topic for a few weeks, and since Mother's Day just passed, I thought I would post about this topic and see what my very wise Blog readers think.
Have you ever wondered about Heavenly Mother? I do...all the time. Why do we not hear about Her? Why aren't we taught of Her? What is the big secret? (OK, I know, sacred, but hey, I feel She is a secret, too)
I think about Heavenly Mother because growing up, my mom was not the 'mother' type and as an adopted child, I was removed from the mother I knew for 9 months and despite what many social workers may say, I feel the ripping-from-her-arms feeling often. I miss that comfort of my first mother and I have always, always needed the connection to a mother-figure. This is why my Mutual (Young Women's) leaders were always so important to me and why I levitated to them. My own mother wanted NOTHING to do with church, nor could she see that I was in need of mothering and nurturing - which was emotionally devastating to a young girl struggling to fit in with anyone. So, I long for a Heavenly Mother....As a side note, my relationship with my mother now is as good as it is going to ever get. She is just emotionally unavailable in life and I have accepted this and learned how to nurture myself.... I have been reading a book that may not be approved by any LDS thinkers or 'approvers,' but nevertheless, I am reading it in my quest to understand my own femininity and to find within myself my own Sacred Feminine self. It is Sue Monk Kid's Dance of the Dissident Daughter. In this book, it talks about Sue's quest to connect within the Baptist Church with a feminine Deity of sorts. She wonders and researches about this topic and finds that really, within her religion, there is no such thing. In fact, she finds many who think women are very inferior to men because of Eve committing (in their minds) the first sin. Not only did she tempt Adam, she also committed the first sin. This is something I never heard and almost hurled the book across the room when I read it, as this thought offended me this much. There are many other names by which many other people call "Heavenly Mother" or the sacred feminine, such as Mother Earth, Mother of All Living, Mother Nature and Goddess....but for the sake of this writing, I'll stick with Heavenly Mother.
In history, if we take a look at the correlation between the abuses women have endured and the abuses the Planet Earth has endured, we see the raping of women and the raping of the land or the earth. The abuses of women and the abuses of nature go hand in hand. As you know, I spent years healing from abuses I endured as a child. And, then, spent a few years as a counselor for rape victims and survivors. I see direct correlation between men's (the generic word) abuses of women and their non-caring attitude about nature and the planet. Not much thought or appreciation given, but used for their own pleasure and sicknesses. So, I spent time thinking why do some men feel this way? What has brought our society to the place it is now that men are superior and women inferior? And despite the best efforts of the feminist movement (and I am a feminist) we are still 2nd best to so many? So, in an effort to better understand this male perspective, I spent 6 months in an internship working with a theraputic group setting with sex offenders - level 2 and above. I wanted to learn how they (offenders) think and what can be done to help un-due this thinking. Believe me when I say there is an epidemic in this country of using female children for deviant sexual experimentation and women as pawns in the web of evil some men participate in. It is horrific and we as women and mothers must stand up and be heard to save our children. (climbing down off my soap box)
In my quest for understanding the sacred feminine, I have done many things, read many books, talked to many women. I have been to an Indian sweat lodge, I have attended conferences, I have read book after book about "the goddess within" and I have spent hours in prayer and mediation. I really have made a big effort to find this within myself and to be secure in my own womanhood. For me, this is a key to my own quest for self security and knowledge. I have created a visual imagery of Heavenly Mother, and have meditated on this mind picture. This, for me, has been the most amazing way to connect. Despite all the books I have read and attempts I have made, I find that imagining myself sitting in the presence of this amazing Woman of God has brought me closer to being the kind of woman I want to be than anything I have ever done.
The amazing part of all of this is I am a mother of young men. I have no girls to pass this down to, but I have boys. And, my boys know all about the dehumanization of women, how women need to be treated and the destructive thinking patterns of men and boys towards women. In fact, I knew I was making headway when we were behind a cab with the famous, "Ifs ands and butts" add and my youngest said, "well there is a perfect example of the exploitation of women...." My inner mom said "YES" with a fist in the air. I feel it is so important to teach our sons about how women need to be respected and that by treating girls with respect, girls learn to respect themselves.
I know there are those in the LDS Faith who think that this type of quest is against our basic teachings, but I feel it is so necessary for my own understanding of who I am to God and who I am as a Woman of Faith. My ultimate goal in this quest is growing closer to my Heavenly Father, and I am going about this by searching out connection with Heavenly Mother. (does this make sense?) I love the 'idea' of Her, the feeling I get when I think of Her and Her love for me as a woman is healing and it is uplifting. I am not the most 'girly' of women, but when I connect with my feminine self, I am more compassionate, more caring, more patient, more loving and yep, I'll say it, more sexual. It is pretty cool, actually.....
I am so in to being a woman as of late and it is so nice to feel I am worthy of the many blessings I receive by being female. I no longer feel 'second best' on Sunday or when Priesthood things are brought up. I know that I chose to be female, that my role as a wife and mother far outweighs my wonderings about the 'whys' of my being a woman in the Church. I also have spent time studying the interaction of Jesus Christ with the women he encountered in the New Testament. What a better example of how to treat women than how Jesus treated women. Equal. With respect. Lovingly and in the end...He took care of His own beloved Mother, Mary. I feel and know this study changed my thinking and my heart.
I no longer question the mystery of the Gospel and my faith has increased 10 fold. So, what do you (yep you, too) do to connect with your feminine self or with Heavenly Mother? (if that does not feel comfortable, ponder on it and see what comes to you...)

16 comments:

Micalanne said...

Janet - I have been thinking about this all day. I will get back to you on this.

Anonymous said...

Me, too.

Janet Patrice said...

I'm not sure if this is a good or a bad thing that others need more time to think about this post. Maybe I have opened up too much about my thoughts and the type of things I wonder about in life. I don't do "fluff" in my writing and for me, writing is a way to sort things out. I hope all that read are not offended by my feelings and thoughts.

Janet

Anonymous said...

Janet, I look at the meanderings of my own exploration, and see that some of what you currently search is what I was digging into some years ago -- probably at somewhat of the same age that you are now. I had a client ask me yesterday if I thought "each of us have a mission". I don't. But, I think, if you are thinking/wondering is you have a mission -- if those thoughts even cross your mind, then you have one. I don't think everyone thinks in this manner. How does this relate to 'sacred feminine"? I think if we 'wonder' about the feminine aspect of God, then it is imperative that we figure it out, or it will bother us and undermine our being able to evolve and heal with greater depth. I don't think 'figuring it all out' means that we completely arrive at an 'answer', as you also suggest. It means that we come to some conclusion that brings peace to the whole subject. My expression of deep feminine lies in two areas, maybe three. 1. My dress -- it is why I wear tailored clothing that often has a touch of bows or ruffles or lace or flowers--feminine. An expression of "I am a woman". 2. Grace. As you mentioned in the life of Christ, this does not need to be exclusively a female characteristic, because Christ lived with grace, too. However, in our culture, it is not the stereotypical elements of 'male' to exude grace -- not the 'manly' thing to be. So, in our culture, it is more an expression of the feminine. Even in a man, it would be deemed the 'feminine side' of him. Important to me as a quality of female. 3. Sexuality. It lives within me and I cherish its energy. I have no means of expression of this, and haven't for a long time in my life. But, I won't let it die or even be put in a back corner. I am a sexual woman, hoping that someday I will have the circumstance which allows expression of this once again. Until then, it lives as a presence, and I celebrate the presence. Relating to the Priesthood, not all of how the Priesthood is enculturated in the church is something I can respect. But, I respect the Priesthood as defined by Heavenly Fater through current day prophets. And, I try hard to be objective and neutral in my thinking about what is appropriate, appointed by God, Priesthood -- and what is the creation of imperfect people Priesthood. One I deeply respect. The other I don't particularly. And, I understand clearly that it is important that I am forgiving of the imperfections of other people, and that I need to be forgiving of my own propensity to look at this with analysis that may not be accurate always. So, self-scrutiny is important here also. I'm rambling -- but these are initial thoughts. I celebrate, with you, the Divine Feminine. I love Heavenly Mother, and talk to her and ask for her influence in my life -- I can't see how this would be a problem for anyone, really. Blessings to you in living your femininity, too!! Margaret

Anonymous said...

I applaud your effort to understand the grand design of heavenly mother and the issues many women face. You have extensively studied the world view of women and are absolutely right on your points. I honestly believe the role of a woman is two separate issues. The world view and a spiritual view. Historically the roles of women have been one demeaned by man. However, the gospel and many other spiritual realms show an enlighten view of women hood. I think you beautifully stated the Indian perspective of womanhood, but would like to expand on a church perspective

Spencer W. Kimball writes
It is a great blessing to be a woman in the Church today. The opposition against righteousness has never been greater, but the opportunities for fulfilling our highest potential have also never been greater.
What is our greatest potential? Is it not to achieve godhood ourselves? And what are the qualities we must develop to achieve such greatness? We might consider some:
First, intelligence, light and knowledge. What special opportunities do women have in this area? These qualities, you will remember, are part of the promise given to the sisters by the Prophet Joseph Smith. Since we learn best by teaching others, we think our Relief Society sisters see the fulfillment of that promise daily as they teach children at home, in Sunday School, and in Primary, in Relief Societies, in sacrament meetings, and in daily conversation. We urge our sisters who are called to teach to magnify their callings through study and prayer, recognizing the eternal values they are building for themselves, as well as for those they teach. We encourage all our sisters to take advantage of their opportunities to receive light and knowledge in school, in personal study,
Second, leadership. Women have unique opportunities to grow in leadership skills. Do you think of leadership as telling others what to do, or as making all the decisions? Not so. Leadership is the ability to encourage the best efforts of others in working toward a desirable goal. Who has more significant opportunities to lead than a mother who guides her children toward perfection, or the wife who daily counsels with her husband that they may grow together? The tremendous contribution in leadership made by women in the auxiliaries of the Church and in their communities is likewise beyond measure.
And finally, perhaps the most essential godlike quality: compassion and love—compassion shown forth in service to others, unselfishness, that ultimate expression of concerns for others we call love.
I truly believe the priesthood was only given to men, because they can not bear children. It is not part of their grand design. It is not a separating issue of superiority it is just a biological fact. Maybe in our heavenly parents mind, they decided to split the jobs equally. Men bless things. Women nurture things because although not mentioned a lot women are part of the grand design. It is only through mortal man in which the role of womanhood was distorted.

Anonymous said...

Hey Janet,

Your blog is beautiful...wow. You have become a gifted writer...expressing your feelings well, with grace and love. I have thought about the sacred feminine and written poems about it. I love my Heavenly Mother. I think about her every day. She is in my heart. She nurtures me through my fears. I am blown away at the grace and mercy in my life. I can truly say I love being a woman more now than any other time in my life. I love everything about my body and my heart...my spirit...my soul. I get to teach women every single day the lessons in my heart. My life is a gift. It's fun to watch it unfold. I miss you. Looks like you are finding wonder and joy in your life. Good for you! Take care my 41 year old friend....

Love, --Beck

Anonymous said...

I guess because my family had a "female dominated" house (4 girls), I never felt second best. I have come across men who acted superior, but I dismissed them as idiots and didn't internalize that concept because I knew it wasn't true. Also, I didn't think of it as a man-being-superior-to-women thing so much as a person who was insecure and had to assert something to feel better about themselves.

The men I've been closest to - my dad, my brothers - especially Greg who lived with me for several years, and Zac's dad, Paul, have never been disrespectful to women. So this is something I haven't experienced.

I haven't pondered in length about Heavenly Mother because I've always felt I've known her, have felt her, and I've always known she was aware of me and that I'd see her again. I've never felt she was kept a secret. My mother has talked about feeling Heavenly Mother's presence, especially when my mom was a Relief Society president.

I've also never felt that the Priesthood made men superior to women. My dad once told me that men needed the Priesthood to become more Christ-like because the Priesthood is about service, and men sometimes need help turning toward others. I say that with love and respect for men. But women, because we're mothers, are closer to the Savior and therefore, more in tune with needs of others. We don't need the Priesthood, but men do.

So, your post was interesting to me because I see things from another perspective. I know you've been searching for meaning and reasons for a lot of things and I commend you for that. We all have different journeys, and thank you so much for sharing a part of yours.

Love ya!!!

dawnae said...

This is a very hard subject because we all question these things, and we all do that at different times in our lives.

I am lucky that I had a great mom, that I knew loved me. I knew she didn't always accept me, (or as she always said my behavior, but it did feel like "me") Was that my failing or my mothers, or was that a teaching lesson for both of us. I finally figured out later in life that our parents were not meant to take care of our "every" need, and that helped me get passed some stuff. Now I am in no way comparing your adoptive mom to my mom. Because, I do realize that there is no comparison...and Janet your mother is absolutely not a reflection on you...despite great challenges and hardship, you have over come them beautifully. I know that Heavenly mother and father are very proud of you, and your accomplishments. I sometimes wonder if we learn about feminity and womanhood as much from our fathers as our mothers. How did our father treat our mother? How did he treat us? How did he deal with disagreements? How did he conduct himself with other women...the list goes on and on.

Over the years I see that I have gone through many stages of figuring this out in my life. (which of course I have not figured out...but I believe we will on the other side) Any way I do not think you are bad for thinking these things....haven't we all???? It is true that as women we are given some hard lessons to bear in the life....but don't men as well? I believe they are just different lessons. boys can be abused just like girls, and unfortunately because of the hardness of mens/womens hearts our children suffer terribly. Sometimes it is just too much for me to understand or bear thinking about. The best place that we can be show our feminity and influence others for good is our home. For me it all boils down to feeling safe. Safe is a big thing to me. Safe financially, sexually, emotionally, physically, and mentally. I think my number one feminine job in this life is to try to the best of my ability to ensure my children feel safe. At times in my life I have been confused about what being feminine means. Like being sexual is feminine, being pretty, having my nails done, being shy and coy, being complicet(sp), and deferring to the man...(because he has the priesthood, and know better than me) Then I moved on to all men are creeps and to hell with being feminine, I will do what I want when I want. Work was important, my needs were important..and my fun was important. Right now I see my femininity being more secure in myself. Learning that I do have a good head on my shoulders, and dang it I am pretty smart, and competent. Learning not to hide is something I am still working on. I am finding out that doing the hard thing is feminine, and so many other things.

I believe that there is a mother in heaven...but I can't even being to speculate why we don't hear about her...because I just don't have a clue. Oh my father, (the church hymn does mention her)....but that is it that I know of. I guess I just cling to faith hoping for a better world and a much much better world when we pass on.

My heart aches that my friend Janet was treated badly, abused, and did not feel love and security as she grew into a wonderful woman. I wish I would have been a better friend to you, I wish I would have been more insightful to your predicament back then, and I wish that you had never had to go through those things. I am really sorry about that.

I can't begin to understand what it would feel like not to know the woman that gave me birth. One thing I do know, is that situations are not always what we think. The best of us made terrible mistakes in our lives that affect our offspring terribly. You will know your mother someday, and you will feel her arms about you, and she will be so so sorry that she wasn't strong enough at the time that you were born to raise you. Someday we will all be supportive of one anothers feminity, our differences, our pain and sorrow. Someday we will all be each others mothers. Someday, we will all be happy, and busy doing the lords work without all the problems of this world to distract us. Someday we will know our Heavenly Mother, and have wonderful conversations with her. Until then I guess the quest goes on to understanding each other as well as ourselves. Don't ever be ashamed of your thoughts or questions....that is why God gave us a brain...some people are deeper than others, and you happen to be deep, and I think that is a good thing Okay this is way long and you are probably super bored now.....I hope that I haven't sounded preachy because honestly I just don't know much about this..it is so complicated...but yes I have thought about this very thing....and have read books about it too....

LaRae said...

Janet -

I am impressed at your quest to find answers and perspective on questions you have. That is an admirable trait. I just have a couple of random thoughts that may be along the lines of your post. First, obviously our individual perspectives of the world around around us are at least partly based on the experiences we have. You have needed connection to a nurturing mother figure, as your own mother was not able to provide that. What a blessing that you recognize that & CAN be a nurturing mother to your own children! This may make your questions about our Heavenly Mother more intense than someone who has had the influence of a nurturing mother. My mother is so nurturing that I am sure I will 70 years old & she will still be telling me to be careful!

My perspective is more like Judy's in that I have not questioned a lot about our Heavenly Mother, but know that She is there & loves us. As women, we have to recognize the motherly creation in the very beings that we are! Obviously the feminine influence is there! I don't feel Heavenly Mother is a secret, but that Heavenly Father truly does not want her image to be defiled in any way. Unfortunately, in the world we live in, she would be defiled as most of God's earthly creations have been, at one point in time or another.

The time you have spent learning about the deviant behavior of some men is interesting to me. I cannot imagine how difficult that would be! I do not like to hear at all about man's inhumanity to man, though I know it exists. However, and I am sure you know this, that is only small subgroup of human beings who behave in such a way as to defile and disrespect womanhood in every way! There are obviously horrible human attrocities all over the world from genocides to war to rape & abuse. I cannot imagine how God feels to look down on the world and see all that happens, although, he obviously knew it would happen. But if we look at it from an eternal perspective, those who have caused such things will reap an eternal damnation, I am sure. I also do not think these things are unique to our society, but have been a struggle for mankind throughout the earth's existence. I am so thankful to be a woman in 2007, rather than in 1307 or even 1607!

I have to say that I do not feel that men are superior & women inferior, and I have not been treated that way by the men with whom I associate. Although, I guess I do feel physically inferior, but that is not society's fault. It's just the way I was created. I am smaller and more fragile physically than most men. Obviously & unfortunately, there are men who capitalize on this and use it for their own gain, and they will also get their eternal "reward".

I am glad that I am different from men & that I am feminine (although before puberty I did not want to be a girl!). Now I can see that being a woman is a wonderful thing. It is such a blessing to be a mother & to nurture & love my children. I am glad that I am different from Brad & that he is a priesthood holder and that he is an influence for much good in our home. Thanks for giving me something to read & ponder this afternoon. Love - LaRae

ps - another good book is Eve & the Choice Made in Eden. Have you read it?

Micalanne said...

Janet - Thank you for opening up a topic for thought that is rarely mentioned. I would like to say first that I am sorry you suffered at the hands of a perpetrator as a child. This fact breaks my heart. I know that the adversary will take advantage of the damage created by these actions against you by planting questions and insecurity in your mind and heart.

I believe your quest to gain an understanding of your existence will be greatly blessed because of the effort you are putting forth. However, I also believe that you need go no further than seeking out and emulating the characteristics of Jesus Christ and spending much time serving in the temple; the place of refuge, peace and revelation.

Many things have been revealed to us that are essential to our progression in this life. The most significant is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, Redeemer and Savior of all the inhabitants sins, infirmities, temptations, questions, offenses and pains. He has borne all for us and will carry us in our weakness; especially if we feel inferior or like damaged goods. We know this because of ancient and modern scripture and the words of our modern prophets and leaders today. We know this through the gift of the Holy Ghost.

What hasn't been revealed to us, other than the fact that She exists, is information about Heavenly Mother. Although Jesus and his characteristics of charity, mercy, love, patient, service, etc. brings us very close to what we expect Heavenly Mother to be like, we do not know the truth of who She is and what She is like. We mortals have not been given the language to describe Her. We only have language and emotions to express what is necessary to strengthen our faith unto repentance and forgiveness, or in other words, to follow the example of Jesus.

If we in this world had the language and memory of Her, we would not have crucified Her Son. We know that the most wicked and the most righteous inhabit this world. I believe those who inhabit the less wicked worlds have more information about Heavenly Mother because they would not exploit Her.

I have experienced in the temple feelings and knowledge that my spirit, the very offspring of Heavenly Mother, understood, but my mortal mind could not comprehend nor communicate. Along with this experience I was blessed with a knowledge of the great worth of the human race. This truth could only be revealed to me in the Holy Temple.

We know that when Jesus came to the America's after His ressurection the Heavens were opened and many things were revealed to the Nephites. These things were so great that no eye hath, nor ear heard such.... And they were commanded to not record them. Could it be that they were taught of Heavenly Mother and it was this knowledge that caused such a great change of heart in the children of men that they had peace for hundreds of years? And what of the people of Enoch? What was it that they knew that caused them to be taken up into Heaven? And what of Jesus when He was suffering in Gethsemane, and His suffering was so great that He, even God, asked that the cup be taken? What did He call on to make it through that pain? We know that Heavenly Father went to the corner of the universe at the sight of His Son's suffering, but that an angel was sent to minister unto Him. Who sent the angel? Who perceived the need of Her Son who had to drink of the bitter cup so that all mankind would be saved and COME HOME TO MOTHER?! Who feels the pain of the victim and holds their hand through the dark night?! Janet does; a Heavenly Mother in the making.

Whenever Heavenly Fathers great love for His children is mentioned, we can all rest assured that it is meant Heavenly Fathers and Heavenly Mothers love for Their children is great; so great that They sent Their Only Begotten Son to this world.

Our spirits were not created, then taught and nurtured by Heavenly Father alone. He had to have Heavenly Mother in order to have spirit children. He cannot be God without Her. She cannot be a Goddess without Him. They are One. They have all the power to create worlds without number and spirit children without number. They both work through the Priesthood. She perceives the need, "Honey I think we need a new galaxy for our youngest 40 million kids". He provides this new galaxy through exercising His Priesthood in righteousness and truth.

I believe that instead of saying she is a Woman of God, we can say God(dess) is Woman; this is right and true.

These are my thoughts, and my testimony. I hope they help you in your quest.

Much Love,
Micalanne

Micalanne said...

One more quick thought ~

I used to often consider what it was that Jesus called on to enable Him to not fail His destiny. We know that the Pure Love of Christ is Charity and we read in the scriptures that Charity Never Faileth. Throught the Charity that Jesus developed from His service to man, he was able to drink the bitter cup. Charity is developed through exercising our Divine Nature - perceiving and caring for the needs of others.

Is it any wonder that the motto of Relief Society, the organization for Women, is "Charity Never Faileth"?

Anonymous said...

Micalanne,
I hadn't made the connection before between the pure love of Christ is Charity;

Christ didn't fail in his mission;

Charity Never Faileth.

Thank you for that.

Janet Patrice said...

Friends -

This has shown me that I am so not alone in my thinking and my feelings. Thanks so very much for sharing your thoughts and hearts with me. I loved that each of you had a perspective to share and that they were all different and they were all enlightening.

What I want to say here is this - please don't feel sorry for anything I have to share about past hurts etc. I do not feel sorry, I have a deep sense of gratitude. I have forgiven. I have allowed healing. And, now I am becoming the woman I am to be and it is truly a miracle. I am happy and I am blessed.

Thanks for being women I admire and wish I could hang out with more often, well, actually, hang out with in general.

I love each of you -

LaRae said...

OK Janet, I should let your comment be the last, but this post has had me thinking more all evening & then on my morning walk (my best pondering time!) Yesterday I read Dawnae's & Micalanne's comments & thought how beautiful & wise they are. I loved reading the things they had to say. Then I started pondering, not necessarily on the major topic of your post - being the Sacred Feminine - but on an underlying theme of good vs evil. I thought about what does make some men feel that they are superior to women & really the one thing that is evident is purely a physical difference - as most men are physically superior to most women. Why are there men who use this to their advantage? Why do these kind of people hurt women & children, who are not as strong in a physical sense? And why has this happened throughout history? Right now I am reading a book about a woman who was the ONLY member of her family to survive the Rwandan Holocaust in the early 1990's. Her story is unbelieveable, to say the least. People in Sudan are victims of genocide at this very moment. Women & children suffer at the hands of evil men everyday in this country. And obviously I could go on & on. As I was thinking about why this occurs, one of our scripture chase scriptures came to mind - Mosiah 3:19 - For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father. So obviously we can see the qualities the Lord looks for us to have if we hope to NOT be an enemy to God! These are many of the qualities possessed by those that some men consider "inferior" - aren't they confused? Interesting. True strength lies in these qualities & characteristics & not in the physical strength to over-power another human being.

Then I thought about all the good that there is in the world. Without all that evil, the good wouldn't mean as much. I REALLY appreciate when I see good around me! Despite all the bad, there is so much good. There are people like you, Janet, who have risen above tremendous adversity to reach out to others who may be suffering. There are people like the little crossing guard who walks me across the street every morning & talks to Ben & tells me to have a good day. There are teachers like Judy who make a difference & are an influence for good, everyday, as they reach out to children, many who may not get this at home! (Just made me think of the movie Freedom Writers - love the movie - love that it's a true story!). There's President Hinckley! You can't get much better than that! I love that he is optimistic & that he always point out the good in the world in his general conference talks.

So anyway - I thought I would share my thoughts with you since it was your post that got me thinking on these things. I felt better after I thought of that scripture. To me it answers the question of why atrocities happen. It is the natural man & those who do not overcome that nature are enemies to God & have been since the fall of Adam! All we can do is be an influence for good & help those around us do the same!

Anonymous said...

And people like LaRae, strong and clear of purpose always.

Janet Patrice said...

Again, I love that we are all have evolved in to wise women who think and feel deeply. I also love that friends who I associate with in my "current" life are also so wise and open. I'm so thankful that there were many who were willing to share and lift me up, reassuing me that I am thinking the same things that many think often.

Again, I welcome more comments..and enjoy this conversation.